In the recently released Windows 10, Microsoft introduced new Telemetry and Data Collection features which will not give you the option to opt out. These services are collecting various information about the software installed on your PC and even personal data stored on your computer. Microsoft claims they may not be used to personally identify you but no one is comfortable with this kind of shady data collection. This change has had a very negative impression on the Windows 10 OS. Now Microsoft has brought similar Telemetry and Data Collection features mainstream directly to Windows 7 and Windows 8 family of operating systems.
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If you have Windows Update enabled in your Windows 7 or Windows 8, you might have noticed that a bunch of new updates are available for your operating system which add more telemetry and data collection services to your OS besides the one already present which you can opt out of. This is a notable change for all users who consider Windows versions prior to Windows 10 as relatively private and safe.
Once these updates are installed, Windows 7 and Windows 8 will start sending collected data using the HTTPS protocol to the following Microsoft servers:
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com settings-win.data.microsoft.com
Another thing that's out of your control is that the operating system ignores any lines you may have added to the HOSTS file, so you cannot block the IP addresses of those servers in the usual way. They are hardcoded into system files and cannot be turned off easily.
The following updates bring more thorough telemetry and data collecting features to your older operating systems:
If you don't wish to share any data whatsoever with Microsoft, you should not install these updates.
Due to such radical changes made by Microsoft in recent months, I think it's not a bad idea to consider an alternative operating system for daily use. Personally, I already switched to Linux a few years ago after Microsoft started eliminating user choices from Windows. I have stuck with Arch Linux for a while.
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Advanced users could definitely change their operating systems if game / program support isn‘t holding them. However, majority of Windows users are just regular people so Microsoft turns that to account.
can i permanently hide all that updates?
Sure, close your eyes – that’s what our society does.
He actually refers to the option to “hide” updates so that the windows update program won’t try to autoinstall them. Which, by the way, you access by right-clicking the update you want to hide and selecting “hide update” from the context menu that appears.
woosh
One question : on Win 8.1.1 Pro, I have KB368708, KB3075249 and KB3080149 installed BUT disabled afterwoods the service “Diagnostics Tracking Service”. Is this enough or should I preferably uninstall the 3 a/m updates ?
Thanks for your advice ! :-)
better to uninstall those KBs
Even better, uninstall Windows, while your at it.
Try Elementary OS, Bodhi, Linux Mint, Easy Peasy, or Ubuntu.
Eliminate the spying, & be free!
Don’t complain. Hit em’ in the wallet. Spread the word! Spread the pain!
If a small leak can sink a ship, a growing tide of Linux converts can sink MS!
Don’t put up with corporate bullies. Don’t complain.
Just switch, & help others to do so.
Join the rebellion, be part of the revolution, let’s make the change happen!
Better society, better the people.
Break the bands of digital enslavement!
Ubuntu leaks your data to adversiters.
Via Unity lenses.
Alright; thank you, Sergey ! :-)
Would blocking the 191.232.0.0/14 ip-range in Windows Firewall with Adv.Security help to prevent telemetry leak?
No, it won’t help at all. If you want to block them get a real firewall.
Or just disabled the Customer Experience Improvement Program using this procedure
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee126127(v=ws.10).aspx
To view or change the Windows CEIP setting on a computer running Windows 7
1.Click Start, select Control Panel, and click the Action Center.
2.In the left pane, click Change Action Center settings.
3.Under Related settings, click Customer Experience Improvement Program settings.
4.If you want to turn off the Windows CEIP, select No, I don’t want to participate in the program, and then click Save Changes.
OMG! Not this crap again.
Do you even know what these updates actually do or do you just read the headlines and stop reading when the word telemetry pops up?
Patches KB3022345, KB3068708 and KB3080149 are pretty much the same patch. The second one already replaces the first one and the third includes some bugfixes to the second. In the end all three patches essentially do the following:
They extend Microsofts Customer Experience Improvement Program ( https://www.microsoft.com/products/ceip ), which is already build into Win 7 and even Win XP. It’s always optional and you’ll always be asked by the software if you want to use it. We all know this thing for years.
http://tmgblog.richardhicks.com/2010/01/14/microsoft-customer-experience-improvement-program-ceip/
They just patched it a little to change some bits of it.
Now let’s get to patch KB3075249 (Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7)
All this does is, adding one additional information to the error reporting tool. (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/wer/archive/2009/03/30/problem-steps-recorder-psr-exe-windows-error-reporting-another-tool-to-help-find-solutions-to-software-defects.aspx)
From now on MS will know if a process with low level rights tried to access higher level rights causing the UAC to pop up, when crashing.
Of course the error reporting tool will only send this information if you agree to do so. As always. Nothing changed.
So please. Calm the F**K DOWN and don’t be so paranoid. Nobody is out to get you.
Dear C.Noize,
Please explain to me why is telemetry collected and send to MS servers (once I install thous updates) when I have OPTED OUT from CEIP when installing the OS and never opted in? Also Can you tell us why (according to you) some MS products have the telemetry on by default and don’t ask for user permission and disregard the OS CEIP settings?
Sup C.Noize!
You really need to drop some metas in that, it lacks style, and flow.
Windows 10 is free right? Make it open source, so I can audit it. IF not
download my thisisnotahack.exe file I promise it will make you rich.
I really, really do. I mean really, really?
Closed source= What are you hiding M$?
Sorry. I’m not a native speaker, so I’m glad I even get my point across. :)
So you don’t trust any close source software at all? What about open source software? Do you do your own code reviews before using it or do you trust the “system”?
The one that worked so perfectly well, that the heartbleed bug in OpenSSL went undetected for years which enabled the NSA to break ssl encryptions without anybody noticing it. That’s safer?
One could argue that it’s much easier for someone to inject malicious code into an open source project than into a closed source project like Windows.
The NSA has some very clever people who can implement some very clever constructed backdoors which aren’t that obvious into any open source project. The best example is the backdoor they implemented in the Dual_EC_DRBG number generator. Even though everybody suspected that there was a backdoor inside this generator nobody could proof it for a long time.
As it turned out, the generator wasn’t producing truly random numbers which enabled the NSA to reverse the encryption that was initiated with these faulty random numbers. Something like that is hard to proof and/or find and could be implemented in a lot of places in open source software, where nobody is looking for it.
Don’t think just because it’s open, that nobody is spying on you.
When the cost is free – the product is YOU!
haha. nice
Not in case of Linux actually.
still waiting for the reply, can i permanently hide kb3068708, kb3022345, kb3075249 and kb3080149?
Yep you can.
You need a tool provided by MS.
See here: https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-hide-or-block-windows-or-driver-updates-in-windows-10/
thanks
Do you use an iphone or android phone? So why do you care about microsoft collecting thia data? You are already givig your personal data, location and much more using an iphone or android. Even Siri needs to read your emails, and reading means sending all that data to apple servers so it can work as advertised.
You people didnt realise that and only now you are ranting about microsoft collecting data?
After I Uninstall those “KB” files, I’m told to “hide” then so they
don’t get re-installed. How do I do that?
Thanks in Advance
When they reappear in Windows Update just right click on them and select ‘Hide update’. If you ever need to restore them just go to the main Update screen and click on Restore Hidden Updates on the left-side bar.
But why to switch operating system?
You can/should use Windows without updates.
Just reinstall Windows and completely turn off ALL automatic updates.
All in teleme_try_delete.bat then run.
echo Uninstalling KB3075249 (telemetry for Win7/8.1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3080149 (telemetry for Win7/8.1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3021917 (telemetry for Win7)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3022345 (telemetry)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3068708 (telemetry)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3044374 (Get Windows 10 for Win8.1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3035583 (Get Windows 10 for Win7sp1/8.1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2990214 (Get Windows 10 for Win7 without sp1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2952664 (Get Windows 10 assistant)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3075853 (update for “Windows Update” on Win8.1/Server 2012R2)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3065987 (update for “Windows Update” on Win7/Server 2008R2)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3050265 (update for “Windows Update” on Win7)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB971033 (license validation)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:971033 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2902907 (description not available)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2902907 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2976987 (description not available)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2976987 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3114409 (description not available)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3114409 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2976987 (Get Windows 10 for Win7sp1/8.1)
start /w wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3150513 /quiet /norestart
Thank you.
These are some others I have in my batch file; I’m not sure what they do, but, have picked them up over the last year or so.
wusa /uninstall /kb:915597 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:958830 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2505438 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2670838 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3046480 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3058168 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3064683 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3072318 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081424 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3102429 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3112343 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3115858 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3118401 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3121255 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3122648 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3122656 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3123862 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3124280 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3126446 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3126593 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3127220 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3127229 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3134214 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3134814 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3150513 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3161102 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3163245 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3168965 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3170106 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3170735 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3170455 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3172605 /quiet /norestart
To ‘RR’ – I actually don’t use a smartphone at all, in part because of the reasons you outlined above. You can’t be sure that anyone else here uses one, either. So don’t bother with stroking your ego. You didn’t out-smart us.
Isn’t this illegal? You agreed to one privacy policy in the EULA when you installed the O/S, they just can’t change that without you agreeing/accepting to the new terms.
oh say can you see I am spying on thee